JPEG support in Tcl edit
- The jpeg module in Tcllib allows one to read and manipulate image information and metadata (documentation).
- The Img package supports this format.
- The GWImage widget supports this format.
- TclMagick is a useful extension for working with JPEG files.
- Pixane, part of eTcl, supports reading and writing JPEG.
- The Pure Tcl JPEG decoder reads baseline JPEG files in Tcl 8.5+ and recent versions of Jim Tcl.
See also edit
Discussion edit
LV What is jbig ? I've seen a reference to this library in a recent application, but I've not been able to locate a library to build that supports it.LV Also, what is JPEG 2000? I notice that http://j2000.org/ and http://www.tele.ucl.ac.be/PROJECTS/OPENJPEG/main.html have what appear to be independent toolkits for it. Is anyone doing work to bind it to Tk - perhaps via Tkimg?
LV There appear to be some intellectual property issues outstanding with jpeg. For instance, here is some info that somehow was deleted from this page earlier; I've restored it. If the info was not deleted accidentally, drop me an email so I know not to keep restoring it!And now, JPEG enters the intellectual properties legal swamp: ... Forgent Sues Over JPEG Patent (Business 2:00 a.m. PDT) http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,63200,00.htmlForgent Networks says it owns a key algorithm in the JPEG picture format, and intends to get 31 of the computing industry's biggest companies to pay for it.
ALOVE Realistically speaking, probably billions of web pages have been using jpegs for many years, so even if this Forgent Networks lawsuit got anywhere, it would be in the courts for years. In other words, don't worry about it. ^_^
LV Actually, the GIF format had just that same situation - and Unisys did just fine squeezing money from software vendors, etc. ...
Even more realisitically - most companies do not wish to take a chance on being dragged into court. So working with the specter of a intellectual properties lawsuit associated with it, many companies will move to something like TIFF or PNG to be safer. Remember - there were millions, if not billions, of GIF files around when UNISYS started their LZW persecution.
ALOVE You have a good point. But fortunately, according to this Wired News item from 2002: http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,53981,00.html the Forgent Patent in question expires "in four years" which would be some time in 2006. So even if the lawsuit succeeds, any software that creates jpegs after 2006 would be free and clear.
LV Nov 1, 2006: FORGENT SETTLES JPEG PATENT CASESOn November 1st, Forgent Networks announced that it had settled its lawsuit over the JPEG patents for $8 million. Forgent, an intellectual property firm that licenses communications technology and software for business meetings, announced that it had settled all of the remaining claims in the cases involving U.S. patent number 4,698,672. The company said that the JPEG standard--the image compression mechanism used in digital cameras and PCs--infringed upon the patent, which Forgent acquired in 1997. About 60 companies, including several camera makers, had already cut licensing deals with Forgent. These deals have brought in approximately $110 million in royalties. PC makers, however, balked at licensing deals, which led to the lawsuit. The suit originally involved about 45 defendants, but 15 settled before this final settlement. Forgent claimed the patent was worth around $1 billion. However, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office agreed to review the validity of the patent in February. Legal fees became mountFurther information may be found at http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=forg&script=410&layout=-6&item_id=925001
LV: Note that the above does not appear to mention that the patent has expired yet...
male - 2007-08-16: Just a question - I haven't examined the sources of the tcllib jpeg package, but ... is it difficult to extent the jpeg package to read the IPTC meta data as well? Or has someone already implemented reading IPTC data using pure tcl?DKF: As far as I know, what you do is you read the metadata (or the right metadata field?) and interpret it as XML (e.g. using tDOM). Then you can pick the IPTC metadata out of that. But I have not tried this, so I might be way off the mark here. (And, speaking as someone who does a fair bit with XML, the IPTC stuff is massively underdocumented...)AF I think its XMP data that is XML. IPTC is binary data stored in the 0xED marker segment. and it probably wouldnt be difficult to extend the package to read and write that data but I probably wont be doing it. However its open source so feel free.
LV Recently on comp.lang.tcl, someone was asking for a portable jpg only library. They were considered about the size of the Img library. Anyone know of any work done binding directly to the jpg code?
LV There appear to be some intellectual property issues outstanding with jpeg. For instance, here is some info that somehow was deleted from this page earlier; I've restored it. If the info was not deleted accidentally, drop me an email so I know not to keep restoring it!And now, JPEG enters the intellectual properties legal swamp: ... Forgent Sues Over JPEG Patent (Business 2:00 a.m. PDT) http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,63200,00.htmlForgent Networks says it owns a key algorithm in the JPEG picture format, and intends to get 31 of the computing industry's biggest companies to pay for it.
ALOVE Realistically speaking, probably billions of web pages have been using jpegs for many years, so even if this Forgent Networks lawsuit got anywhere, it would be in the courts for years. In other words, don't worry about it. ^_^
LV Actually, the GIF format had just that same situation - and Unisys did just fine squeezing money from software vendors, etc. ...
Even more realisitically - most companies do not wish to take a chance on being dragged into court. So working with the specter of a intellectual properties lawsuit associated with it, many companies will move to something like TIFF or PNG to be safer. Remember - there were millions, if not billions, of GIF files around when UNISYS started their LZW persecution.
ALOVE You have a good point. But fortunately, according to this Wired News item from 2002: http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,53981,00.html the Forgent Patent in question expires "in four years" which would be some time in 2006. So even if the lawsuit succeeds, any software that creates jpegs after 2006 would be free and clear.
LV Nov 1, 2006: FORGENT SETTLES JPEG PATENT CASESOn November 1st, Forgent Networks announced that it had settled its lawsuit over the JPEG patents for $8 million. Forgent, an intellectual property firm that licenses communications technology and software for business meetings, announced that it had settled all of the remaining claims in the cases involving U.S. patent number 4,698,672. The company said that the JPEG standard--the image compression mechanism used in digital cameras and PCs--infringed upon the patent, which Forgent acquired in 1997. About 60 companies, including several camera makers, had already cut licensing deals with Forgent. These deals have brought in approximately $110 million in royalties. PC makers, however, balked at licensing deals, which led to the lawsuit. The suit originally involved about 45 defendants, but 15 settled before this final settlement. Forgent claimed the patent was worth around $1 billion. However, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office agreed to review the validity of the patent in February. Legal fees became mountFurther information may be found at http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=forg&script=410&layout=-6&item_id=925001
LV: Note that the above does not appear to mention that the patent has expired yet...
male - 2007-08-16: Just a question - I haven't examined the sources of the tcllib jpeg package, but ... is it difficult to extent the jpeg package to read the IPTC meta data as well? Or has someone already implemented reading IPTC data using pure tcl?DKF: As far as I know, what you do is you read the metadata (or the right metadata field?) and interpret it as XML (e.g. using tDOM). Then you can pick the IPTC metadata out of that. But I have not tried this, so I might be way off the mark here. (And, speaking as someone who does a fair bit with XML, the IPTC stuff is massively underdocumented...)AF I think its XMP data that is XML. IPTC is binary data stored in the 0xED marker segment. and it probably wouldnt be difficult to extend the package to read and write that data but I probably wont be doing it. However its open source so feel free.
LV Recently on comp.lang.tcl, someone was asking for a portable jpg only library. They were considered about the size of the Img library. Anyone know of any work done binding directly to the jpg code?